Channels & viewing

[Dankness]

What are you talking about? How do you use the DIRECTV stream app when you have Verizon fios this makes zero sense

I simply replaced all my Rokus with Amazon fires because let’s be serious. There’s not a ton of difference. 

I’m a Roku stock owner and would prefer Amazon did not take over the world, but Roku doesn’t seem to give a f**k and either build their own Verizon app or politely ask Verizon to build one for their platform. The whole thing is very annoying.

[OwnerofDevices]

@Dankness Just, because Verizon is your ISP doesn't mean that you have to be a Verizon Fios TV customer. I cancelled my Verizon Fios TV service back in March and I signed up with Fubo streaming live TV service.  

[Dankness]

it is far more cost-effective to bundle ISP and television services then going with Verizon is your ISP and another service, regardless of what that is. For the most part ISP’s are basically giving away television services these days.

since I’m now doing Amazon fire sticks I’m actually looking into Tivimate and LemoTV. 

I can completely understand why Roku wouldn’t allow those apps because they don’t make any money with people doing that. 

this to me as a problem with Verizon I’m just bothered that I had to move on from Roku. if Horizon files is available in your area, then it’s a no-brainer to have that over anything else (save google fiber which I have not been able to try, and it’s not available in my area).

[Strega2]

If you look up TV at our local fiber provider (Ziply), the bulk of the material is on selecting a streaming TV service. They have a tool for selecting your streaming TV bundle. I tried their tool, and it suggested Hulu + Live or a few other options. Turns out the price for my "streaming bundle" was identical to just getting Hulu +live myself.

Then at the very bottom of the page it says: "Not quite ready for streaming? Streaming TV is the future, and our fiber-optic network makes it easy and cost-efficient. However, you can still opt for Fiber TV, which offers network TV channels and on-demand movies. This service is available in select areas." But you have to call someone to find out how much that costs.

Their FAQ page says: "We offer Fiber TV, a traditional cable TV service. However, programming costs from channel owners continue to increase for traditional TV services. We believe there’s a better way with streaming TV. With the speed and reliability of fiber internet, you can stream the TV content you want and ditch the channels you don’t need."

[atc98092]

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@Dankness wrote:

I’m a Roku stock owner and would prefer Amazon did not take over the world, but Roku doesn’t seem to give a f**k and either build their own Verizon app or politely ask Verizon to build one for their platform. The whole thing is very annoying.

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It doesn't work that way. Roku has no ability to build an app for a third party. As far as them asking Verizon to make one, they have no influence in that. Only Verizon paying customers have that level of influence. 

[Dankness]

All good feedback but no need to make things complicated.

Bundling TV with ISP is less expensive. if you think otherwise you’re simply wrong

FYI, I haven’t had a cable box in 10 years. The annoyance is because I got my parents Roku originally because their last house had Comcast, now they have fios. I can make do with anything and make anything work for me, older people can’t.

I utilize the individual apps and sign in with my Verizon account, It’s kind of annoying because Roku doesn’t seem to be able to save my Verizo Login in all the apps, but this is a different frustration. I have with Roku (apparently they blame that on the app developers)

Having a Verizon TV app in Roku allows

• saving because you don’t have to rent boxes.
  
  
• singular location to view your television guide. Old people want this.

Everyone needs an ISP. If Verizon one gig is available, you get it because it’s the best, literally no debating that unless comparing to other fiber. 

Verizon 1G ISP= $90

Service Cost Comparison

fios with bundle tv and Disney package

• Fios 1 Gigabit Internet + Disney Bundle
  Fios 1 Gigabit Internet + Your Fios TV $134.99 (Includes up to 940 Mbps internet and 125+ channels.)
• Disney Bundle (Disney+, Hulu, ESPN+) $13.99 Price for the ad-supported version.
  **Total** **$148.98**

• Fios 1 Gigabit Internet + Hulu + Live TV
  Fios 1 Gigabit Internet $89.99 (Standalone internet service.)
• Hulu + Live TV $82.99 Includes Hulu (With Ads), Live TV, Disney+ (With Ads), and ESPN+ (W
  **Total** **$172.98**

Additional Streaming Services, the ones you need

• Max $15.99 Formerly HBO Max.
• Netflix $15.49 Standard plan with HD streaming.
• Amazon Prime Video $8.99 Standalone Prime Video subscription; included with Amazon Prime me

again I don’t really care. The new Fire TV have good enough processors to be usable unlike the old ones. Roku used to have a competitive advantage as it relates to hardware that is no longer the case. Yes I’m sure newer Roku boxes are better to use then the newest Fire TV dongle’s, but not to an extent that it makes a difference. The only difference moving forward with any of these things is compatibility and connectivity. so get your s**t together, Roku. I’m glad I don’t have to run the company. Very tough to differentiate yourself in 2024 with a product like this, now the processors have gotten to a certain point, Wi-Fi 6 and on is here ie Ethernet is not necessary anymore for these devices, a manufacturing TVs is apparently free to do based on the prices that I’m saying. Kind of kidding, but not really

[OwnerofDevices]

Don't forget sells Verizon stream TV devices that are Android TV devices for $69.99. 

[OwnerofDevices]

@Dankness Fubo cost me $105 a month for 4k sports broadcasts. I get 10 logins at home and 3 away from home. With Verizon fios TV with regional sports my bill for TV was $130 a month.

[Strega2]

As it happens, I've been going through this with my parents. The place they live used to give free comcast TV, but just switched to giving Free DirecTV. (because DirecTV made them a much lower offer.) But they didn't bother to mention to the residents, that since there is only one RG6 coming into each apartment, if you get switched to DirecTV, you loose any Comcast stuff that you had (about 60% had internet and/or phone.)

So far, all the pricing I've seen is that adding the comcast TV back is about $90 (typically minus a $10 bundling discount.) So about $80 a month - not much different than what they can do with streaming. This is based on reading the price sheet, and what people have told me their total bills turned out to be.

Of course all such comparisons are muddied by the fact that no one thinks the most important channels are the same as the next person.

[Dankness]

There was a comment in here that spoke to how comparisons can be estimated but never exact because of channel preferences. This is right on.

I just want Roku to have the Verizon TV app like Apple TV and fire sticks have. Doesn’t seem like too much to ask but again when I spoke to Roku about this, they blame it on Verizon, which is probably true. Unacceptable. but probably true

while we were talking about Verizon, did you guys know that you can’t cast or AirPlay from the iPhone app on your phone? you also can’t login to watch on streaming device when you are on a different Wi-Fi network. 

all of these certainly make it seem like it makes more sense to have Hulu live or fubo or any of the other ones