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Cman8686
Newbie

Roku Ultra causing HDMI-ARC to not work

I have had a Yamaha sound bar for several years. The sound bar connects to the TV through the ARC port. This is worked flawlessly for years with our DirecTV box and Fire Stick.  Yesterday I got a new Roku Ultra and connected it to the TV. The sound bar will not work with the Roku connected to the TV. I have fiddled with all the settings on the Roku and on my TV.  The sound bar no longer turns on/off when the TV does. When I choose ARC as the audio output there's no sound. I have to switch back to TV speakers (which are awful). I have tried using different HDMI ports and cables for everything but nothing seems to work. Everything has the latest updates.

 

What's going on here?

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renojim
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Re: Roku Ultra causing HDMI-ARC to not work

It sounds like the same issue as this:

https://community.roku.com/t5/Features-settings-updates/Soundbar-won-t-communicate-with-TV-over-ARC-...

The common denominator may be the Yamaha sound bar.

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iFrog
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Re: Roku Ultra causing HDMI-ARC to not work

I thought I would chime in here,  I seem to be having a similar issue.  I have a 2016 Sony android TV, a Roku Ultra 4802, a Shield TV Pro (2019), and an Apple TV 4K (2022).

My sound bar is a Vizio M Series that supports Atmos and DTS:x, and I've started to encounter the issue more randomly since I've turned CEC back on, on the TV, and have been using the Roku more.

What happens for me, is when everything is working as it should:

the sound bar turns off and on with the TV, and the TV switches to external speakers.

When the problem happens, the TV seems to forget the CEC connection between the TV and sound bar, and switches back to TV speakers.  The sound bar also doesn't turn on with the TV, as others mentioned I can manually turn on the sound bar, and it works, but the TV speakers stay active, so I get sound from both.  Unlike the other case here, I can pull the power from the sound bar, and plug it back in and things are normal again.  This random behavior seems to have started more with CEC being on, and the Roku being present.  For a while I was using the TV with Bravia Sync off, but wanted ARC because I ran out of direct HDMI connections in my switch connected to the sound Bar's HDMI in port.

 

One of the other factors in my case was, that  I had too many CEC devices for a while, so it was violating the specs.  I've fixed that  by either disconnecting devices I don't use, or disabling CEC on those that I don't need it on.  This has mainly fixed it, however whenever the ROKU is in use / connected, I still get the random issue.  My Roku 4802 is up to date with 12.5.0 build 4178.  Also to note, I turned off 1-touch play on the Roku, but that doesn't disable the power CEC commands, and I think that's what causes it.  I have the Roku TV control to use IR and not CEC, however, I've noticed that Roku's CEC functions are poorly implemented and it just has to be there to cause random problems.

 

There also doesn't seem to be a secret menu to kill CEC completely from the Roku which would be nice if there was.  Since there is no set pattern in when this happens for me, the only way I could completely be sure the Roku is causing the random issues is to completely disconnect it for a while, and not use it.  Which I could do, i've considered dropping Roku with the random issues I keep having but things were starting to be fixed that I was having issues with, and as far as a streamer as far as watching content, that's working fine.  Now it's just the CEC related issues.

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NardoPolo
Newbie

Re: Roku Ultra causing HDMI-ARC to not work

The referenced link goes to a locked post. Interestingly enough, this seems to be a general issue with HDMI-CEC when the Roku is directly connected to the TV. I recently replace an old receiver with a sound bar. CEC works fine with the receiver and the audio from the TV through ARC also worked. The Blu-Ray player was always directly connected to the TV. The receiver could only do 1080P and was getting a bit long in the tooth, but all the remotes were able to control the volume though CEC and turn on and off the entire "stack." With the changes in living arrangement the receiver was overkill and was replaced with a sound bar. Now that the Roku is connected to the TV, CEC & ARC will fail when I turn the TV on. If I unplug my Roku Ultra from the TV everything works as designed. It seems Roku wants to only control what it is directly contented to. It's also worth pointing out that my TV is a Toshiba, so not any of the others that haven't been mentioned in any other posts that I've seen. Not sure with there is ever going to be a fix for it. But one can always hope.