"destruk" wrote:
Would it have been so hard for you to simply state it was a Roku3 and Roku 2 XS and move on? We both know RokuJoel goes out of his way to help and support users here, and he has to deal with a lot of irritating people - but here you are being one of them.
I would expect to see a short release notes or list of minor changes in the SDK documentation, or in the developer blog, or in a short notice here on the forum when 5.2 is finished being rolled out, just like Roku usually does. (patience)
<sigh> you are going on a tangent and wholesale ignoring what i replied you in private message. You want me to repeat it here, fine: First, i would understand if Joel is new here and/or volunteer. Neither is the case- he's been around for a long time and is being paid to support the developers. I don't know for a fact that he "goes out of his way" to help and support - i know RokuShawnS does but i have seen RokuJoel multiple times shoot answers from the hip, showing he did not read or paid attention to what was said. That is annoying and wastes others time and effort. I put an effort when i send my message, i checked and double-checked versions and models, if there is new firmware waiting and so on. I expect the courtesy of when saying it is model 3100 to believe me that IT IS that model - this is not like in live conversation, when you can say "which, which one?" and be told right away - if one is too lazy to spare five seconds to do the check and instead bounce message back just delaying the response by a day, i don't pity that.
Second, as i told you - i did not use "marketing model names" because they are
unreliable. What, with the latest announcements of recycling the "Roku 2" name. And with "Roku HD" model being used 3 separate times - in 2009, 2010 and 2012 models. Same for "Roku LT" with 2011 and 2013 different incarnations - you cannot rely on the marketing name to pinpoint the exact model. You can however trust the model number printed on the bottom. I cannot fathom working years for a company and not knowing by heart what their 3xxx and 4xxx series are. And to top it off, this is what is reported by the player itself - open root page on ecp port ( say
http://192.168.1.25:8060/ ) and observe:
<root xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:device-1-0">
...
<device>
<deviceType>urn:roku-com:device:player:1-0</deviceType>
<friendlyName>Roku Streaming Player</friendlyName>
<manufacturer>Roku</manufacturer>
<manufacturerURL>http://www.roku.com/</manufacturerURL>
<modelDescription>Roku Streaming Player Network Media</modelDescription>
<modelName>Roku Streaming Player 3100X</modelName>
<modelNumber>3100X</modelNumber>
...
Do you see there "Roku 2 XS"? Me neither.
Now about the "patience" - i don't have it, because this firmware BROKE my app. There are odd errors popping up because of the changes made. I was unable to find any hint of these upcoming changes and that is why i am asking. And if you know something about it, please let me know - otherwise keep idle chat private. Yes, i am cranky because i have to scramble on zero advance notice, blow the dust and cobwebs off Xcode and release new app version to tip-toe around some unannounced 5.2 change - all while keep guessing, because i don't know what exactly is changed and have no idea when 5.2 is rolled out everywhere. In the mean time i will be slapped with negative reviews and may have to yank the app from AppStore, losing
literally nteens 🙂 of dollars daily in the process. No, showing short release notes
after the fact is not normal for the ecosystem, consider how the big platform makers give you advance disclosure of the things to come. And yes, normally i am nicer person and try to keep mean observations to myself.
