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You are correct that there is no Stick+ on their web site any longer. But that appears to be because they have simply upgraded the Stick 4K to the + level. Every player is on sale right now.
As to which player to get, it depends on your needs. If your TV supports Dolby Vision, you should get either the Streaming Stick 4K or the Ultra. If you want to use a wired network connection, the Ultra has a jack and the Express 4K+ supports an optional adapter. Even if you don't have a 4K TV, I don't recommend the basic Express to anyone. For the slight price increase, the Express 4K+ is a significant improvement, including a Voice Remote and dual band WiFi. In my opinion, the Express 4K+ is the sweet spot for players.
Don't buy any Roku product, unless Roku is willing to walk back their forced arbitration agreement.
Roku is holding your device (be it a Roku device, or in many cases, a whole entire TV that relies on Roku as the OS) as ransom, unless you agree to waive your rights to hold Roku BEFORE and AFTER you agree to their terms, accountable for any reason.
Long time Roku user, and loved my Rokus product, no longer...
- atc980922 years agoCommunity Streaming Expert
RBUser the Roku terms of service has always included "forced" arbitration. That is nothing new. They completely messed up with the way they forced out the latest update, by blocking use of the device until the user accepted the update. That was a very bad way to do it, and hopefully Roku has gotten that through someone's thick skull. I seriously doubt they will ever do that again.
- StopTheFomo2 years agoChannel Surfer
How else can you "force" acceptance of the latest arbitration terms? If you allow the consumer to easily "skip" accepting the new Terms of Service (TOS), then it defeats the purpose of updating it in the first place. Essentially, when you first bought the TV, it required you to accept the TOS before proceeding and if you didn't like it you could always return the TV and buy something else. But then fast forward 6 months later when you're outside the TV's return period and they update their TOS, which you may refuse, but if you refuse then you have a dead Rokuy TV because you can't return it - of course you can always buy an Apple TV and plug it into the HDMI port but that defeats the purpose of buying an inexpensive Roku TV right?
- atc980922 years agoCommunity Streaming Expert
StopTheFomo wrote:How else can you "force" acceptance of the latest arbitration terms?
Roku did a terrible job with their user interaction about the TOS update. And I believe they have rolled back this poor implementation, as many people are now reporting they never saw the screen. It doesn't excuse the way they did it, but it does appear to be gone. And I believe you would have a valid case against agreeing to modified terms months (or more) after purchase. But again as a reminder, arbitration has always been included in the Roku terms of service. It wasn't something they are just now trying to put out. In my opinion, there's very little changed in the recent update.
- jimmy792 years agoReel Rookie
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