Roku Device Features, Settings & Updates

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ebinrock
Level 7

Why does no Roku streaming device include Gigabit Ethernet?

I'm just wondering why no Roku device, at least the top of the line Roku Ultra, have a Gigabit Ethernet connection?  With 4K streaming (and the industry is looking toward 8K and beyond), you would think this is a no-brainer (some routers are now 10-Gigabit capable!), yet to my knowledge only the Apple TV 4K device has it.  10/100 should be a dead technology by now, wi-fi is hit-and-miss, and more cities are getting true Gigabit speeds, so the endpoint devices like streaming boxes and smart TV's ought to be able to take full advantage of those fiber speeds.

P.S. - I was looking at one of those Apple TV devices today at the Apple store, but I'd really rather prefer to go with Roku because Apple's remote is rather confusing.  And Chromecast doesn't even include a remote!  Nor do I think those competitors offer ALL the apps for my favorite services (including VUDU, etc.).  Please, Roku, upgrade your Ultra device to include a physical Gigabit connection!  It would be such a better deal than the overpriced Apple device, which is twice the price (for the Apple TV 4K 64GB storage model)!  Even their base model (non-4K) is $50 above your Ultra model!
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twiceover
Level 10

Re: Why does no Roku streaming device include Gigabit Ethernet?

Because even local 4k streaming won't saturate a 100mb connection.  Why spend the extra money for something none of your users are going to need.
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Re: Why does no Roku streaming device include Gigabit Ethernet?

"twiceover" wrote:
Because even local 4k streaming won't saturate a 100mb connection.  Why spend the extra money for something none of your users are going to need.

Exactly. I'm streaming buffer-free 1080P with a 7.5mbps connection. I'm told I could be doing the same with 4K at around 18mbps. It'll be many years, if ever, before we see content that even begins to approach the limits of conventional WiFi or Ethernet.
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atc98092
Level 13

Re: Why does no Roku streaming device include Gigabit Ethernet?

"twiceover" wrote:
Because even local 4k streaming won't saturate a 100mb connection.  Why spend the extra money for something none of your users are going to need.

Actually, I can saturate my connection with my local UHD rips. I see a steady 70-80 Mbps (or more) on my router graphs, with peaks exceeding 120 Mbps. It causes buffering often enough to make it difficult to watch. But since the majority of Roku customers aren't using them for local content, just the online sources, 100 Mbps is more than enough. However, I agree that they should offer a flagship product with gigabit Ethernet and lossless audio bitstreaming. I believe there's enough of a market for such a player. Look at the sales of the Nvidia Shield, with prices starting at $200. Yes, recently prices have dropped, making me think a new version is coming out soon. But the market is there. 
Dan
Nvidia Shield, Roku Stick (3600), Ultra (4640), Premiere (3920), Insignia 720p Roku TV, Sharp 4K Roku TV, Windows 10 Pro x64 running Serviio and Plex on a wired Gigabit network.
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blade_005
Level 10

Re: Why does no Roku streaming device include Gigabit Ethernet?

"Doctor Manhattan" wrote:
"twiceover" wrote:
Because even local 4k streaming won't saturate a 100mb connection.  Why spend the extra money for something none of your users are going to need.

Exactly. I'm streaming buffer-free 1080P with a 7.5mbps connection. I'm told I could be doing the same with 4K at around 18mbps. It'll be many years, if ever, before we see content that even begins to approach the limits of conventional WiFi or Ethernet.

FYI. Turning on streaming info on the Netflix internal app on a 4K Roku enabled TV shows that a 1080p stream hits 3.32 Mbps and produces a quality buffer-free stream. A 4K and/or 4K Dolby Vision stream tops out at 15.26 Mbps of bandwidth. Other streaming apps will differ, but Netflix has worked a lot with encoding on their end to offer quality streams with reasonable bandwidth requirements.
TCL-TV Roku 55P605 (4K HDR & DV) | VIZIO SmartCast SB3651‑E6 Soundbar
TCL-TV Roku 43S425 (4K HDR) | TCL-TV Roku 32S301 (720p)
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NightHawk
Level 7

Re: Why does no Roku streaming device include Gigabit Ethernet?

"blade_005" wrote:
FYI. Turning on streaming info on the Netflix internal app on a 4K Roku enabled TV shows that a 1080p stream hits 3.32 Mbps and produces a quality buffer-free stream. A 4K and/or 4K Dolby Vision stream tops out at 15.26 Mbps of bandwidth. Other streaming apps will differ, but Netflix has worked a lot with encoding on their end to offer quality streams with reasonable bandwidth requirements.

I figured out how to turn on streaming info inside the Netflix Roku app, I had to quickly press the * button while the video was loading just prior to start playing.
In the upper left corner it then showed while the video was playing the format and video bitrate, in my case 1080p and 5.3Mbps for the title I played.
Oddly the first time, the info also showed the audio format 5.1 but later on it only showed the video info no audio info in the upper left corner.
Is there a way to control if the audio info is shown too?
Roku Ultra 4640R, Roku Streaming Stick+ 3810R
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atc98092
Level 13

Re: Why does no Roku streaming device include Gigabit Ethernet?

Back when I still had 4K access on Netflix, I used some of their test videos to see what bitrate was at what resolution. At that time, 2160 would appear as low as 9 Mbps, but it kept ramping up and topped out at 16 Mbps. Never went any higher. So I'd say someone with a 15 Mbps Internet speed could stream 4K Netflix. But don't expect other users on your Internet to have any access without seeing the resolution drop. I think 20 Mbps is pretty much minimum if you want anything else to use the Internet at the same time. 
Dan
Nvidia Shield, Roku Stick (3600), Ultra (4640), Premiere (3920), Insignia 720p Roku TV, Sharp 4K Roku TV, Windows 10 Pro x64 running Serviio and Plex on a wired Gigabit network.
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blade_005
Level 10

Re: Why does no Roku streaming device include Gigabit Ethernet?

"NightHawk" wrote:
"blade_005" wrote:
FYI. Turning on streaming info on the Netflix internal app on a 4K Roku enabled TV shows that a 1080p stream hits 3.32 Mbps and produces a quality buffer-free stream. A 4K and/or 4K Dolby Vision stream tops out at 15.26 Mbps of bandwidth. Other streaming apps will differ, but Netflix has worked a lot with encoding on their end to offer quality streams with reasonable bandwidth requirements.

I figured out how to turn on streaming info inside the Netflix Roku app, I had to quickly press the * button while the video was loading just prior to start playing.
In the upper left corner it then showed while the video was playing the format and video bitrate, in my case 1080p and 5.3Mbps for the title I played.
Oddly the first time, the info also showed the audio format 5.1 but later on it only showed the video info no audio info in the upper left corner.
Is there a way to control if the audio info is shown too?

FYI. You don't have to press ASTERISK button quickly before stream begins, you just have to be on the main Home Screen of Netflix and not inside of a TV Series or Movie Detail screen and the ASTERISK button will toggle STREAMING INFO on or off.
TCL-TV Roku 55P605 (4K HDR & DV) | VIZIO SmartCast SB3651‑E6 Soundbar
TCL-TV Roku 43S425 (4K HDR) | TCL-TV Roku 32S301 (720p)
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PSUHammer
Level 7

Re: Why does no Roku streaming device include Gigabit Ethernet?

Some of you folks are not streaming uncompressed UHD content or you would know that this can top out at 125 Mbps. Avengers Infinity War UHD remux streaming over my local Plex server stops playing on my Roku at points when it hits 100 Mbps. This is why I also have an Nvidia Shield.

Can you stream 4k at a lower, compressed bitrate? Sure. But this is why Netflix and other streaming services can't compete with UHD Blu Ray quality.

Roku is awesome in every respect except for this ridiculous oversite with only a 10/100 Nic.
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speechles
Level 7

Re: Why does no Roku streaming device include Gigabit Ethernet?

Use the 5Ghz WiFi and get 1300 mbps rather than 1000 mbps over ethernet. Depending on noise/distance maybe not.
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