Roku Device Features, Settings & Updates

Help configuring Roku device settings, using Roku OS features such as screen mirroring, adjusting display type and audio settings, using Guest Mode, and assistance with software updates.
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Re: Roku Media Player 5.0 broken


@atc98092 wrote:

@702vegas wrote:

I loved the new app! Finally videos played AUTOMATICALLY after finishing one. This feature should be implemented on the old. version if they are sticking with it. 

very disappointed to turn my tv on to find the old version. Please at least give an option to upgrade! The new version was so much better. 


That is already there in the older version. After you've selected a title, but before beginning playback, hit the * button and turn Repeat All on. 


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Re: Roku Media Player 5.0 broken


@atc98092 wrote:

@702vegas wrote:

I loved the new app! Finally videos played AUTOMATICALLY after finishing one. This feature should be implemented on the old. version if they are sticking with it. 

very disappointed to turn my tv on to find the old version. Please at least give an option to upgrade! The new version was so much better. 


That is already there in the older version. After you've selected a title, but before beginning playback, hit the * button and turn Repeat All on. 


Repeat All is not the same as sequentially playing all the files, it's a workaround, and it will never finish.

If I have a folder with 3 files in a folder, how do I activate Repeat for just one file? I move it into a new folder and enable Repeat All. It's a workaround. Personally I'd like to see Repeat (the selected file), Repeat All (files in the folder), and Play (the selected file and the rest sequentially, then stop). That's what I'm used to, anyway.

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Re: Roku Media Player 5.0 broken


@BarneyF wrote:

@atc98092 wrote:

@702vegas wrote:

I loved the new app! Finally videos played AUTOMATICALLY after finishing one. This feature should be implemented on the old. version if they are sticking with it. 

very disappointed to turn my tv on to find the old version. Please at least give an option to upgrade! The new version was so much better. 


That is already there in the older version. After you've selected a title, but before beginning playback, hit the * button and turn Repeat All on. 


Repeat All is not the same as sequentially playing all the files, it's a workaround, and it will never finish.

If I have a folder with 3 files in a folder, how do I activate Repeat for just one file? I move it into a new folder and enable Repeat All. It's a workaround. Personally I'd like to see Repeat (the selected file), Repeat All (files in the folder), and Play (the selected file and the rest sequentially, then stop). That's what I'm used to, anyway.


Yes, repeat all is the same as sequentially playing all files. And yes, it will continue playing all videos in that folder indefinitely. That is what @702vegas was asking for.

You are talking about repeating a single file. No, RMP does not support that, either the previous or the short lived 5.0 version. So there's no player channel for Roku to my knowledge that can repeat a single file. In fact, Chaneru is the only other channel that I am aware of that can play from either the USB port or from a network DLNA server. But it's been so long since I assisted that author I really can't say what it might have available now. I just checked Chaneru, Plex and Emby, and I don't see any ability to replay a single title. 

Dan
Roku Stick (3600), Ultra (4640), Ultra (4670), Premiere (3920), Insignia 720p Roku TV, Sharp 4K Roku TV, Nvidia Shield, Windows 10 Pro x64 running Serviio and Plex on a wired Gigabit network.
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Re: Roku Media Player 5.0 broken


@atc98092 wrote:

@BarneyF wrote:

@atc98092 wrote:

@702vegas wrote:

I loved the new app! Finally videos played AUTOMATICALLY after finishing one. This feature should be implemented on the old. version if they are sticking with it. 

very disappointed to turn my tv on to find the old version. Please at least give an option to upgrade! The new version was so much better. 


That is already there in the older version. After you've selected a title, but before beginning playback, hit the * button and turn Repeat All on. 


Repeat All is not the same as sequentially playing all the files, it's a workaround, and it will never finish.

If I have a folder with 3 files in a folder, how do I activate Repeat for just one file? I move it into a new folder and enable Repeat All. It's a workaround. Personally I'd like to see Repeat (the selected file), Repeat All (files in the folder), and Play (the selected file and the rest sequentially, then stop). That's what I'm used to, anyway.


Yes, repeat all is the same as sequentially playing all files.


Wrong. Again.

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Re: Roku Media Player 5.0 broken

This will be my last comment about this. Repeat All will play each file within the given folder sequentially from where playback began. Another way to play the entire folder is to hit the Play button (not the OK button) while having the folder selected, but before entering the folder. RMP has no ability to continually play a single file over and over again. I don't know why you are arguing about it. 

Dan
Roku Stick (3600), Ultra (4640), Ultra (4670), Premiere (3920), Insignia 720p Roku TV, Sharp 4K Roku TV, Nvidia Shield, Windows 10 Pro x64 running Serviio and Plex on a wired Gigabit network.
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Re: Roku Media Player 5.0 broken

As a software developer myself (who, yes, dabbled at one time with Roku channels) I've been mulling this over for a few days. For what it's worth, here's my reflections, after the benefit of a few days to think...

Firstly, my sympathies go out to the coder(s?) who did this update, Given the range of functionality that RMP attempts, I assume the code must be pretty substantial. Perhaps even labyrinthine(?)  I believe someone mentioned that the original programmer had retired -- I can only imagine how daunting it must have been to be doing a major update to a project of this scale when you're not the original developer. (Been there, done that, not nice!) So, yeah, I feel your pain!

Secondly, I'm wondering as just how important the USB functionality is to the RMP. Only a handful of Roku models have USB support, however, those owners who do have USB probably chose their models specifically because of it. So although USB is only a tiny part of the Roku audience, it is probably a big part of the RMP audience. I'm guessing that for owners with USB, the RMP channel is a must-have that a very high percentage of them will have installed.

Thirdly, I don't know how the channel secured its beta testers, but I wonder if there was a danger of them being a self selecting survey (as pollsters call it.) From personal experience, self selecting beta-testers (volunteers) tend to be the kind of people who are confident with technology and like to be on the bleeding-edge of innovation. Consequently, in the case of the RMP, they're probably more likely to be running an advanced setup like DLNA. The average Roku user (your mom and dad, or Uncle Bert) probably doesn't know what DLNA is, let alone how to set one up. But they do know about more mundane technologies like USB, and how to transfer their family videos off of their iPhone onto a thumb drive so they can watch them on their Roku. It is all to easy for coders to develop an unconscious bias in favour of new advanced features, simply because your beta testers are excited about them. One has to sometimes remind oneself that the core audience is probably just using the mundane basic functionality, and that self-selecting beta testers are almost never a true representation of the core audience.

Fourthly, speaking personally (as a coder with a UI/graphics specialist background) a think a priority for the channel is to develop a new settings 'sub-system' UI. It is clear that the channel's complexity, and diversity of audience, would benefit from it being reasonably configurable to meet the preferences of users. (Eg: don't like the fact that the file listings show metadata titles rather than just filenames? Switch it off in the screen's settings page!) What is blocking this is the current modal dialogs, inherited from the old version, that offer an incredibly primitive range of UI interactions. For me, priority should be given to creating a flexible and sophisticated 'settings screen' user interface, that can be used throughout the application. Once that is in place, it becomes easier to offer a wider range of tweaks and settings, because you have a UI component that is sophisticated enough to handle the all the required settings with ease. Then you can start to add many more little bits of customisation across the whole channel, so users can tweak functionality to their own individual preference.

(I've often suspected that the very crude user settings UI on the 'classic' RMP was like an anchor, holding the channel back. It was difficult to add sophisticated functionality, because there was only a very very limited opportunity for the user to configure it. Consequently almost every feature ended up with hard-coded defaults that users couldn't adapt. It was impossible to make everyone happy, not because the code couldn't easily be written to make everyone happy, but because the UI wasn't sophisticated enough to offer the configuration setting. But hey... these are just the grumblings of a long-in-the-tooth UI developer...)

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Re: Roku Media Player 5.0 broken

Just 2 years ago RMP would play all the video files on my USB drive. It would also randomize files in subfolders too! No more! I have a few hundred 2-3 minute video files I download from various web sites and edited with Quicktime Pro. Now the play **bleep**! They speed up, or the audio is way out of synch. Did Roku change their codes to not support certain video files?

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Re: Roku Media Player 5.0 broken


@duffyb wrote:

Just 2 years ago RMP would play all the video files on my USB drive. It would also randomize files in subfolders too! No more! I have a few hundred 2-3 minute video files I download from various web sites and edited with Quicktime Pro. Now the play **bleep**! They speed up, or the audio is way out of synch. Did Roku change their codes to not support certain video files?


If you've been rolled back to the 4.x version, it should play everything it ever has. Depending on your Roku player, they have added MPEG-2 support, but nothing has been removed. OS 9.3 also adds support for Dolby TrueHD, but we don't yet know how that will be implemented. So far RMP doesn't support it, and Plex doesn't seen to know it's supported yet either. 

Dan
Roku Stick (3600), Ultra (4640), Ultra (4670), Premiere (3920), Insignia 720p Roku TV, Sharp 4K Roku TV, Nvidia Shield, Windows 10 Pro x64 running Serviio and Plex on a wired Gigabit network.
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Re: Roku Media Player 5.0 broken

Thanks, how do I go back to version 4?

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Re: Roku Media Player 5.0 broken


@duffyb wrote:

Thanks, how do I go back to version 4?


Roku did it automatically. No one but beta testers should have 5.0 any longer. But if you haven't permitted your Roku to self-update, it's possible that you might still have the problem version 5.0. But it should be obvious, as 5.0 had a completely different look, from the screen icon to the complete user interface. 

But to answer the question completely, you have no control over what version of any channel in on your device. You can stop automatic updates by unplugging the Roku when not in use, but that won't stop some channels from updating the next time the device is powered up. And there's no way to downgrade a channel to a previous version.

Dan
Roku Stick (3600), Ultra (4640), Ultra (4670), Premiere (3920), Insignia 720p Roku TV, Sharp 4K Roku TV, Nvidia Shield, Windows 10 Pro x64 running Serviio and Plex on a wired Gigabit network.
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