"Heyitsrick" wrote:"AnClar" wrote:"Heyitsrick" wrote:
Couldn't you have just bought it and returned it if it didn't do the conversion? I'm not getting this. You want a definitive answer (which RokuDale explicitly gave), and you had a chance to to buy it in person but opted not to...ostensibly to wait for others to test it? Just get it already.
What's not to get? Given the fact that Roku had been silent on the topic since last November,..almost a year, despite repeated requests for comments by a number of Roku users and customers, you'll excuse me if I've been a bit skeptical about the claims to this point. I'm glad Dale has finally said it plainly. And, sorry, I'm far too busy (maybe you're not, and that's great for you) to waste my time ordering, buying, testing, and then returning a product if it didn't do what I needed it to do because the selling company had been vague or non-communicative about its feature set. That's sales 101...it's on the company selling a product to accurately represent the feature set of said product, not leave it up to the customer to "try it and see". And again, it wasn't only me asking the question.
You're totally missing the point. He said (not you, he) that he had one in his hands at Walmart but didn't pull the trigger, and yet is still waiting for someone (someone else, apparently) to say whether it will definitively transcode DD+ to DD. That's the part I don't understand. But hey, that's just me.
If I really wanted the answer and I was right there at the store with it in my hands and a Roku engineer had already explicitly said it does what I need it to do, I'd just go ahead and buy it and verify it. Now, if I had to drive 100 miles to Walmart to return it, sure, I might think twice. But there's no indication of that from his post.
Look, you guys can do what you want - it's your money. But you've got your answer here from RokuDale. What else specifically are you looking for from them on this particular question?
Now...absolutely nothing as far as I'm concerned. I ordered my Ultra based on the answer I got from Dale.
CEG:Heyitsrick, you don't have to get it. It's not about you or you wanting to be critical. Get it? Don't let my ignorance upset you. You don't know how many times people have been burned by wrong information or how frustrating it has been for many users, who never were able to stream Netflix in DD. My own system cost several thousand dollars years ago, before anybody had dreamed of Dolby Plus, but it's too nice and works too well to replace.
I pre-ordered the 4 last year on the advice of Roku support and was very disappointed. 129.00 is a lot of money and it's kind of irresponsible to buy something, planning to return it. I'm not yet ready buy the Ultra, even if I know it will do what I want. We are just talking here.
I don't need to explain myself to you or meet your expectations. It's an open forum and you are free to ignore any posting that offends you.
I just ordered my Ultra. I am interested in the 720P upscaling. That might be a nice benefit for those of us with 1080P TV's.
I've never heard of a receiver having HDMI but no advanced audio decoding.
I can confirm that the Ultra DOES decode DD+ from Netflix through the optical port and outputs DD5.1. I just bought a new ultra for exactly this feature and tested it out; concur that previous versions did not do this but were just passthrough and reverted to PLII in a receiver that can not decode DD+ but can decode DD5.1 (like mine). I did have to go into the Roku settings and set it away from the Default (Auto) Audio and choose DD5.1 as the output, basically forcing it to go no higher than DD5.1 ever in the optical output. I do not know the bitrate of the DD5.1 stream from Netflix that results from this decoding and if anyone does, that would be helpful to know.
Finally I report that there is still a small bug to be worked out in this: on my brand new unit at least, every time that I select a new movie there is a pronounced pretty loud click in the audio stream; I am muting the sound to suppress it but it should not be there. I suspect that it is being caused by the Ultra figuring out that it has to decode to DD5.1 and during that first negotiation sequence this click is produced. It should be taken care of I would think readily by a software update or maybe firmware update and hope that Roku will take notice of this and rectify it soon.
Otherwise it works as advertised and thanks Roku for finally addressing this issue for all of us with high quality legacy receivers who don't want to replace them; 640 k bps DD5.1 is nearly indistinguishable from MA per blind listening tests so if we can get that quality output from Netflix streams through this unit things will be just fine for these types of systems in general.