Ways to grandfather app users?

I went through the same thing. I didn't come up with a satisfactory solution. I had the same idea: wouldn't it be nice if there was ifChannelStore function that would return when the channel was purchased. I could come up with ways using existing registry entries (new users wouldn't have those entries), but that wouldn't cover the case of a factory reset or a user getting a new box. In the end, I went with creating a new channel and having the old channel removed from the Channel Store. Existing users wouldn't know the difference and the old channel is still available should they add another box to their account. The only drawback is that you need a little help from someone at Roku. You can't have two channels with the same name and/or the same vanity code, although I think you can just change those for the old version and use the same names for the new version. I forget exactly how I handled that. Also, someone has to, or should, remove the old version. Of course there's also the problem of updating both versions, but I don't plan on ever updating the old version.

You'll love the Dark Side. You think regular billing/payments are screwed up? Wait until you try RAF.

On a related note, I'm seeing the same shortcomings as far as subscriptions are concerned. You can purchase a subscription through roChannelStore, but as far as I can tell there's no way to retrieve any information about the subscription like when it was purchased, has it been canceled, etc.

-JT

Well put, renojim!
I went through that line of thought already, with the same considerations - registry markers will be lost on re-install, device may change hands so tying / affinity should be per user account and not device. I imagined the "schism" way (convert old to private, release brand new under same name) but don't like it because then i'll have 2 channels to manage. Nor do i want leaving the "grandfathered" in an end-of-life app.

I don't want a schism - instead i want to continue altogether in a single app (simplicity of mgmt) while retaining old users, with a freemium model (option to buy additional levels/packs).

I have been deep deep in the Roku billing bowels lately. I'd vote for some more documentation if there was a place I could do that....

Anyway, here is how I would handle this. Say you currently have "product A" that you were selling your channel with. Leave that product intact and add "product B" as your new "dark side" option.

Modify your channel code to the following:
1 - when you present the option to buy products for your channel, don't show product A as an option for customers to buy (only show product B)
2 - use getpurchases() to see what products the user has purchased within your channel and if product A or B exists, then bypass ads

Granted, all my knowledge is based on monthly subscriptions. Getpurchases only persists purchases that have not yet expired.

"adamkaz" wrote:
2 - use getpurchases() to see what products the user has purchased within your channel and if product A or B exists, then bypass ads

Oh yeah - that would be great if there was a product A - but there isn't. It's an "upfront purchase" app which some people have paid a buck for and it feels unfair to stiff them with ads because of "pivoting". Hence my hope of using the date-when-app-added-to-account as a pass

Hmm - if getpurchases() doesn't give you anything for one time purchase apps, then I got nothing for you.

I went down a similar route, too. I thought I could add a Product A & B and just "purchase" Product A for existing users for $0.00, but there's no "Price tier 0".

-JT

"renojim" wrote:
I went down a similar route, too. I thought I could add a Product A & B and just "purchase" Product A for existing users for $0.00, but there's no "Price tier 0".

That's an interesting idea. Why is there no tier 0?
There should be a price tier $0!
A solid reason to be able to price in-app items at $0 already exists: promos. That's how it's done in the other appstores - when running a limited time promotion, you just drop item's price to 0 and show banner to the users. (Then of course the purchase confirmation dialog will show them if you were honest about it being $0 or lying)

Yep, I thought the same thing about promos. I believe I brought up the need for a "Tier 0" to a few Roku*'s, but I didn't get a response. :roll:

-JT

Bumping this just in case there's something new that I don't know about.

-JT