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App Developer Needed for Web

Hello:

i know that an Internet Search prompt can be made available. I’ve had access through TV before years ago using XBox, I believe & an external keyboard. Of course accessing the Internet is slow & bulky by design but certainly possible. I searched a few months ago for a ROKU search engine app and found nothing. In the last few days I discovered “Search Google with the Web”. 

It is a paid app to my dismay offering two options:  70 searches @ .99 or 300 searches for $2.99.

Having experienced how tedious pulling up a direct url can be using the onscreen keyboard or even an external KB if you can figure that out - I already knew that even 70 urls is a ridiculously large amount as most will opt to use their phone & cast. However, some do have a need for Internet access through the Router/Modem & independent from their phone &/or PC &/or Wi-Fi. I know this because it’s something that I personally need. And, if you offered it as well as could advertise its existence, I think there exists a chance to create an app that’s worthwhile. In fact, since I was willing to pay for it even, there is a chance that it could be more lucrative than say the online games & hoping ppl will purchase useless tokens. The problem of this medium being tedious & cumbersome crosses all of those apps.  Using either the remote or the onscreen keyboard makes things pretty difficult. 

If developers were to utilize a search engine such as Bing or DuckDuckGo (whatever), there is actually the possibility of monetization through searches & advertising also. Browsers can have built in ways to generate revenue for the developer. Yet even if you only offered an address line where only an exact url could be typed in to visit a specific page - it would be an app that people want and would want if they knew about its existence. It could be monetized like the theory behind the Google search by charging for the number of urls that could be visited. I’m just pointing out that there is incentive for someone to create this particular app  

The Google Search app wasn’t Google as it a was rife with typos. Also it doesn’t work at all so I just got a refund on my .99  Tech Support searched for any other possibility for me to access the web but there isn’t anything created at this time. I understand that there was recently some falling out between Google & ROKU but I’m not sure that has anything to do with why the app doesn’t work. However, it could. 

Would someone please create a way to access a url through the router/modem -ROKU interface? They asked me on the phone if I could access the web otherwise with my service. Of course - that’s how I watch YouTube.com or really anything else with Roku. So the web works fine & I can run my phone through the Wi-Fi. I’m looking for a solution that doesn’t require my phone, though. 

Thanks & I really hope someone will run with this. I’d like to know about it for sure. I’ll definitely use the service & I’d be glad to even spread the word of its existence if that would help. 

Teri

  • Hello SerenityNow the roku operating system is a closed source linux operating system so is not open to modifications by developers beyond what is allowed or permitted by Roku themselves.

     

    Currently browser activity is not allowed on Roku at all in any way so it's not possible to build web pages of any description let alone search engines.

     

    I hope that helps?

     

    Thanks

     

    https://community.roku.com/t5/Channels-viewing/Paid-Google-Search-Engine-Application/m-p/904581/highlight/true#M148881

     

    PS We are allowed to build search feeds which display search results from a given API containing video content, so that users can search for and find video content on our channels.  However these searches are going through our own or Roku APIs and not through a general search engine.  Then we obtain consistent results and are able to display the content of video searches easily for the end user to see and select items.  Doing this via a random search engine like Google would obtain results but not in the format that we can present video options to the user.  

     

    Hope that helps 🙂

  • Hello SerenityNow and yes this I must admit is a very valid and fair assumption to make.  However if we look at most of the TV and TV software manufacturers eg XBOX,  Playstation, Netflix, Amazon etc nearly all of these do indeed as you suggest have a very valid web browser interface and can interact with HTTP natively.

     

    Roku is very different in this regard, and is much more closed off and does not expose any APIs in its operating system which permit browser based behaviour.  I guess with both Roku and Apple they are closed source operating systems so it's not possible to dive into the source code and see what's happening so easily and build 3rd party components off that ....  Microsoft have open sourced a lot of their code eg .NET / .NET core are open source languages now, which allows a lot better input from the developer community.  

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_system_software

     

    Hope that helps again 🙂 

  • Hello SerenityNow the roku operating system is a closed source linux operating system so is not open to modifications by developers beyond what is allowed or permitted by Roku themselves.

     

    Currently browser activity is not allowed on Roku at all in any way so it's not possible to build web pages of any description let alone search engines.

     

    I hope that helps?

     

    Thanks

     

    https://community.roku.com/t5/Channels-viewing/Paid-Google-Search-Engine-Application/m-p/904581/highlight/true#M148881

     

    PS We are allowed to build search feeds which display search results from a given API containing video content, so that users can search for and find video content on our channels.  However these searches are going through our own or Roku APIs and not through a general search engine.  Then we obtain consistent results and are able to display the content of video searches easily for the end user to see and select items.  Doing this via a random search engine like Google would obtain results but not in the format that we can present video options to the user.  

     

    Hope that helps 🙂

    • SerenityNow's avatar
      SerenityNow
      Streaming Star

      Guess what?!  I clicked on that app again - the one that’s supposed to have been refunded as it didn’t work.  It works now.  It searches with Google. I haven’t messed with it much - I clicked on feed search & image search for some random term & it did pull them up. It’s very basic & there’s not like a re: line to enter an address which is kind of what I was imagining. Yet surprise!  You can search the web with roku. 

    • SerenityNow's avatar
      SerenityNow
      Streaming Star

      It does. I’m still skeptical. Lol. We used to have like an X-Box - I don’t recall all the details but you could attach a keyboard & type in web addresses (I think). So is it possible in any way to simply type in an url?

      • philanderson777's avatar
        philanderson777
        Roku Guru

        Hello SerenityNow and yes this I must admit is a very valid and fair assumption to make.  However if we look at most of the TV and TV software manufacturers eg XBOX,  Playstation, Netflix, Amazon etc nearly all of these do indeed as you suggest have a very valid web browser interface and can interact with HTTP natively.

         

        Roku is very different in this regard, and is much more closed off and does not expose any APIs in its operating system which permit browser based behaviour.  I guess with both Roku and Apple they are closed source operating systems so it's not possible to dive into the source code and see what's happening so easily and build 3rd party components off that ....  Microsoft have open sourced a lot of their code eg .NET / .NET core are open source languages now, which allows a lot better input from the developer community.  

         

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_system_software

         

        Hope that helps again 🙂 

    • westner's avatar
      westner
      Roku Guru

      My news channel that I accessed on my Roku TV recently moved to an internet "only" accessible app. I can watch it on my 24" computer screen but not on my 60" Roku TV. I thought that I could access the internet on my old TV, but I guess there is no chance to do that on my Roku TV.