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grobl
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8 years ago
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Why is YouTube Kids not available on Roku?

Every other mainstream streaming device now has YouTube Kids.  Why is it not yet on Roku? 

  • YouTube's Terms of Service does not allow any other developer to create a YouTube based channel for Roku other than YouTube themselves.

    There have been third-party YouTube clients for the Roku in the past and Google/YouTube has demanded that the third-party channel be removed.

    Also, the concept of YouTube Kids is not part of the YouTube API.  There an API search option to restrict it to "safesearch" mode but that is not really the same.  YouTube has no intention of helping third-parties create alternative YouTube Kids applications.

    If you are willing to live with the limitation just having a "safe-search," you should be able to do that in the existing YouTube channel for Roku by going to Settings (the gear in the lower-left) and then choosing Restricted Mode.

    That all having been said, I find the following statement really alarming:
    "However my kids love kids YouTube, my wife and I love it because we feel peace of mind that they will only have kids content."

    That is not my understanding of what YouTube Kids actually is.  Several of the videos seem to be added to the Kids app using an automated system.  If a cartoon looking video includes instructions on how to commit suicide in the middle then YouTube Kids will be "quick" to act on it being reported for abuse.  However, a reactionary system is not the same as having *only* kids content.

    For more information, read carefully what YouTube Kids has to say themselves about the level of safety at:
    https://www.youtube.com/kids/safer-experience/

    Notice that they themselves indicate the following:
    "But not all videos have been manually reviewed. If you find something inappropriate that we missed, you can flag it for fast review. This makes the app better for everyone."

    WHAT?!  *IF*?  How inappropriate can something be and still get missed?!

    The YouTube Kids reactionary after the fact method is not nearly the same as something like HBO Go or HBO Now's Kids section of manually curated content.

    Roku's Kids & Family section of the Roku streaming channel store also have other apps that I feel are better curated content that YouTube Kids automated filter such as PBS Kids.  There is no *IF* you find something then flag it that is part of the PBS Kids system of doing things.

    If having delicate minds view videos on a iPad using YouTube Kids were the video was selected through a flawed automated filter has worked well for you so far, I'm happy for you.  I personally don't play Russian roulette regardless of if the gun has 6 chambers or 100 chambers.  YouTube Kids doesn't promise the accuracy of their filter is completely 100%.  They just claim they work to keep the amount of content that sneaks through to be a low percentage.  To me, that low percentage is still a bullet in a gun with a lot of chambers.  I would personally get as much peace of mind from YouTube Kids as I would get from watching The Deer Hunter (a movie I also would not recommend for kids).
  • Roku just provides the platform on which the channel apps written for Roku run.  The channels themselves create their channel apps, provide them to Roku, and maintain them.

    Google, who owns YouTube, has not created a version of their YouTube Kids app to run on Roku that I can find.  If you'd like to have a YouTube Kids channel app for Roku, let YouTube know.

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    • Yogi76's avatar
      Yogi76
      Channel Surfer

      Roku used to be the platform that was "service agnostic" and had almost all apps available, which is why I chose it over Android TV / Google TV, Fire TV, or Apple TV. Unfortunately, that no longer seems to be the case with YouTube Kids, Peacock*, and HBO Max all being glaring omissions that the other platforms now have but Roku doesn't. I'm currently evaluating moving to another platform.

      *Technically, Peacock isn't yet available on Fire TV, but since Fire TV is based on Android, the app can be sideloaded.

      Edit: It turns out that the Peacock app is actually now available for Roku.

      • fluke's avatar
        fluke
        Roku Guru

        Yogi76 wrote:

        Roku used to be the platform that was "service agnostic" and had almost all apps available, which is why I chose it over Android TV / Google TV, Fire TV, or Apple TV. Unfortunately, that no longer seems to be the case with YouTube Kids, Peacock*, and HBO Max all being glaring omissions that the other platforms now have but Roku doesn't. I'm currently evaluating moving to another platform.

        *Technically, Peacock isn't yet available on Fire TV, but since Fire TV is based on Android, the app can be sideloaded.


        I am sorry to hear you are having problems figuring out how to watch Peacock TV on Roku.

        It is lised in the channel store here:

        https://channelstore.roku.com/details/2dd1a2670117700b87d7a40bfa7e6138/peacock-tv 

         

        HBO Max support provides instructions on how to watch on Roku here:
        https://help.hbomax.com/Answer/Detail/2346 

        There is still no YouTube Kids available for Roku from Google.  While Fire TV has it, it should be noted that Amazon does not give YouTube Kids a rating of "all ages."  There are other apps that get an "All Ages" rating but not YouTube Kids.  Instead Amazon rates YouTube Kids as "Guidance Suggested."

        How Amazon defines Guidance Suggested is very telling about the quality of YouTube Kids:

        Based on information provided by the developer, the content of this application has material that is appropriate for most users. The app may include account creation, location detection, user generated content, advertisements, infrequent or mild references to violence, profanity, or crude themes, or other content not suitable for all ages.

        They also had to pay $170 million for violation of the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA).

        How is the name YouTube Kids not misleading?  Seriously, what exactly is Google implying when they call it "YouTube Kids" that is not just grossly misleading?!?!

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous

    my sister wants to watch youtube kid and she cant because roku does not have it 

    • ShaSha88's avatar
      ShaSha88
      Newbie

      I have the youtube kids app on my phone the app has cast feature within it and also download web video caster to cast my roku tv. I hope this help anyone ..so far this works this way